The Gore Gore Girls are a noisy, tight, danceable
garage rock quartet. They rock the stage
with sweat and sexiness. They have a bluesy
rock feel that comes right at you and
smacks you in the face. Its obvious
they are having fun with life. When Amy Gore
climbs up
on a stack of amps in her tight white vinyl
dress, flashing her gold sequined panties
at everybody
and smiling with an intense glee you know
youre watching some rock n roll. The
Gore Gore Girls
just released a new album called Get
the Gore on Bloodshot Records and they
are touring
their way around the world right now. But
Amy Gore took some time to tell us about
economic policies and rock n roll.
To
appreciate this music, you have to have a
streak of wildness, a fierce independence
of
spirit, and an absolute belief in the unusual,
the strange, the unpredictable, the offbeat,
and even the generally unacceptable.
--
Herschell Gordon Lewis Director of the film
The Gore Gore Girls and early
impressario
of skin flicks and slasher fests.
Mike
Hammer: What bands do Amy Gore and the
"Gore Gore Girls" listen to?
Amy
Gore: Today in the van we listened to
Ike Turner, some French pop and, at home I
listened to the
Flamin Groovies.
MH:
Tour music is always a variety like that,
french pop and instrumentals.
AG:
Yep.
MH:
What else do you do in the van to stay busy?
AG:
Read, make fun of each other, poke fun at
everything possible, on tour you just kinda
make use of
everything you have. I like to read.
MH:
What are you reading right now?
AG:
I'm reading a copy of "National Geographic"
a book on Karl Marx and Ike Turner's autobiography.
MH:
Ike Turner again huh? What's interesting about
Ike Turner that we should know.
AG:
Both Hammer and I are fans of Ike Turner,
we love his guitar playing and his songs and
I like that
period of rock n roll, the early '50s, seminal
rock n roll, I'm pretty into that.
MH:
And what appeals to you about Karl Marx?
AG:
I don't know If anything does, I just was
reading about him, vs. Adam Smith.
MH:
A showdown.
AG:
(laughs) Yes. Showdown. They had somewhat
opposite, not totally opposite, views on economic
policies. Karl Marx's theory was basically
that capitalism will eventually collapse upon
itself and Adam
Smith said it won't, it will just keep going.
We are seeing right now in American culture,
society, whatever
you wanna call it, that big business seems
to be taking over. A prosperous model of successful
economic
structure would be based on a lot of small
business working together. But, capitalism
itself gives way for
larger businesses and companies to take over.
MH:
So, did Karl Marx convince you? Do you think
capitalism is gonna collapse on Itself?
AG:
I don't know.
MH:
We are kinda reaching, we are past it actually
, the historic 200 year empire mark - Rome
and
most of the big empires only lasted about
200 years before they collapsed.
AG:
It's remarkable that, the '30s were not that
long ago and this country went through a terrific
depression,
and that's really not that long ago. Then
we had credit, credit/Social Security to get
us out of it, those
are fairly new ideas and concepts, in comparison
to the rest of history. The state that our
country and
our culture is in now, privatization is kind
of running rampant and I do think that big
companies are kinda
ruining things. And theyre getting too
big. There was a period in this country where
the majority of people
worked for themselves. You had the butcher
in town, the farmer, the blacksmith, the schoolteacher,
whatever, and now youve got people who
are struggling to get and maintain jobs for
big corporations
and I wonder if thats a good thing.
I dont really think it is. I think that
society is moving away from human contact.
Even knowing where their food comes from and
where their shoes are mad
I mean, you
know
where theyre made, theyre made
in China
With the way things are going
and the way things have
changed so much you cant afford to buy
American made anything. Because the cost of
the wages, or the
cost of the labor is crazy,but
.were
getting away from our main point, which is
Im playing at the Beachland Ballroom
tonight in Cleveland.
MH:
What point? What? It's an Interview, that's
the point. To get you to talk about all kinds
of stuff
AG:
I don't have any answers.
MH:
What about the trade barter system? You give
me a song and I'll give you a story.
AG:
I don't know. We're off the gold standard
supposedly. So how do we even value our money?
If the dollar represents something and we're
taking away that something, what the fuck,
what are we doing?
MH:
And now we have the Euro which is becoming
more valuable than the dollar, what's gonna
happen?
AG::
The Gore Gore Girls toured Scandanavia right
after 9/11 and when we showed them the dollars,
to exhange the dollars, the people behind
the glass were laughing at us.
MH:
Because it was worth so little or what?
AG:
It was Denmark, one of the Scandanavian countries,
and they were enjoying the fact that this
prospoerous country, that, supposedly America
is the best and No. 1 and all that but the
dollar had fallen.
MH:
So you saw some of the ugly side of the European
people oveer there?
AG:
Oh yeah, each time I've been over there, It's
funny how musically we're really well received,
I would
say even more attentively than in America,
but politacaly we're berated. We would play
a show, I would
find this a lot, that after the show people
would come up to us and talk and be really
positive about the
music and the style, and really into artistically
what was going on with us, but then they would
shift to
calling us out on our foreign policy and the
Gulf War and this, that and the other.
MH:
Because you were from the U.S. you were a
rpresentative of our the U.S. flaws?
AG:
Yeah. We were there and I guess we were considered
traveling statesmen.
MH:
Do you feel like a traveling statesmen? Do
you think about, and do you try to represent
the
U.S. when you tour to other countries?
AG:
I guess, I don't know. I don't know what to
say about that. I don't know what's going
to happen. I
think it's important for Americans to travel
and be aware that there are other customs
and cultures and
languages. I think a lot of people in this
country, we have it so good here, things are
wrong, things need
to be adjusted, but we have it so good here
compared to other parts of the world. You
can't expect
everyone to speak English and everyone to
know what a hamburger is and everyone to wait
on you hand
and foot. We in this country enjoy a special
kind of service standard here, and it's pretty
gross.
MH:
Do you have a favorite other part of the world?
AG:
I love Austria, Vienna, Austria, I love Mexico
City, I love Stockholm it's gorgeous, Denmark
was
amazing, Spain Is a whole different world
I love it there.
MH:
Have you learned any other languages?
AG:
I know a little, like travelers Spanish. Mas
Cervas
MH:
I do think it's unfortunate that we don't
put an emphasis on learning languages In the
U.S.
But, you said the music translated well?
AG:
Yeah. I would say most places outside of this
country, of America, have a
.I would
say their
palette is more well tuned for art. I think
art in general, from a laymen's point of view,
from my point
of view, I would say that people are more
receptive to art as a staple in their life,
versus American
culture is more about making money, in general.
Making money, status, this that and the other,
but it's
pretty weak, pretty shallow. However when
you tour different countries you see, people
have a different
respect for art and they have a longer attention
span, and they're really interested in what
you have
to say. I think it's a sad commentary on this
country, how, John Lennon was shot, the fact
that somebody
would shoot a rock musician, people would
probably do It now, as a gangland thing, but
not to hurt
culture and hurt people. We don't have any
John Lennon's right now. I would say Jack
White is probably
the closest thing, but he's not political.
I think artists are really the keepers of
everything, because art is everything, it's
politics, it's economics, it's spirituality,
it's aesthetics and you're life is nothing
without
that really. You just have your job and your
fancy car and your TV set and it's a pretty
weak, it's a
pretty sad existence.
MH:
I lived In New Orleans for a couple years
AG:
How was that?
MH:
Great, great city, but I had to move around
when Hurricane Katrina hit, but down there
I
had a friend, who grew up in Ohio and owned
a PR firm In New Orleans and used to say in
most of the
United States people live to work, but in
New Orleans people work so that they can live.
Is that
you're whole goal, and the goal of the Gore
Gore Girls?
AG:
Yeah. I pretty much get by to do my art and
do this band. Otherwise I'd have a 9 to 5
job, which
would suck. What I see Is people working 8
and 12 hours a day and they're just getting
by, they're
just chasing their tails, there's a huge disparity,
I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here,
I'm just
telling you what I observe, there's a gigantic
disparity between the rich and the poor and
it's getting to
a point where I think the middle class is
definitely disappearing and you have people
working all these
hours at these jobs, and what are they doing.
I don't want to exist I want to live.
MH:
You want to leave a mark after you're gone.
AG:
I already have.
MH:
You don't think everyone does?
AG:
I think people do too different degrees.
MH:
Are you happy so far with the mark you've
left?
AG:
You know, you kinda have to look at thatin
different ways, cause what I'm doing involves
communication and people's perception of me.
And what someone writes, or their interpretation
of my
music or of me is what's gonna be left. So,
it's kind of like I can do what I want, but
someone's
perception of me is really what's gonna be
left. Which, I have no control over.
MH:
Alright, well let's switch gear to the latest
album from the [I]Gore Gore Girls[/I], "Get
the Gore," something you did have control
over. [I]Gore Gore Girls[/I] took it's name
from an old slasher flick right?
AG:
Yes, from a Herschell Gordon Lewis film. He's
considered the Godfather of gore, he created
a
genre of film, that's really gorey, lots of
blood and special effects, he created that
genre. The movie
"Gore Gore Girls" was his last movie,
made in 1972 and I'm a big fan of Herschell
Gordon Lewis in general,
I think he's a brilliant man. I took the name
of the movie becausee, at the time I started
the band it
seemed like a good mix of what I was into,
'60s and '70s culture, yet I liked darker
music, "Black Sabbath"
or, innocent music but something with a little
edge to it, you know. I really like how Herschell,
when he
approached movies he just went for it. He
pretty much had no budget. He had a lot to
do with the films.
Not only did he direct them, he wrote some
of the music for them, he was an all around
D.I.Y.
exploitation filmmaker.
MH:
He did liner notes for "Get the Gore,"
how did that come about?
AG:
He did contribute liner notes, much to my
absolute delight. I had written to him, I
correspond
with him. He's incredibly gracious. I took
the name for the band without consulting him.
I wrote him
through e-mail, he has a Web site, and he
was incredibly gracious and really well versed
and great
to talk to and he was kind enough to contribute
liner notes.
MH:
What did you talk about with him?
AG:
We really didn't talk about much. It was a
very short conversation and I sent him the
rough
tracks for this album, unmastered versions,
cause I kinda wanted his input. I asked him
what he
thought about them and would he write something
about them and he respond, with I think 3
pages..
MH:
How did the record come about?
AG:
Well, the band In name, with me as the main
songwriter has 4 releases, 3 records and one
ep,
and our latest record Is our first full-length
album, there are 13 songs on it and it was
recorded up
at Jim Diamond's studios up in Detroit, at
Ghetto Recorder studios, the songs were recorded
In 2 different
sessions, one from April 2004 and one from
September 2006.
MH:
So it took a while for this recording to come
together.
AG:
The ep was self released, I put it out, then
we went searching for a label and we talked
to a
number people and Bloodshot Records was the
most natural fit for us.
MH:
You're the songwriter. What is your writing
process?
AG:
They just come to me. I'm of the belief that
songs come from a place and we are simply
conductors
of them and the melodies and the lines just
kinda come to me and I write them. Usually
motion is involved,
if I'm travelling a lot or doing a lot of
work then I'll get hit with a bunch of ideas.
They
just come fast. The best songs for me, are
written, they're just In my head and they
come out.
Although we did do a co-write with Kim Fowley
(creator of the all girl band "The Runaways"
and a
songwriter for Kiss and others) on this record
and he wrote some lyrics for me for 2 songs
and Hammer
and I had some songs ready to go, we just
didn't have any lyrics. And one of the songs,
just the phrasing
and everything fit perfectly. That song was
called the "Pleasure Unit." So I'm
pretty excited to have a
co-write credit with Kim Fowley.
MH:
Well, Fowley, Herschell Gordon Lewis, what
else Is special about this record?
AG:
I think it's varied, there are a lot of different
stuff on it. When you have an album it's kinda
like
a painting, it's gotta have all the right
elements to it, be framed the right way and
displayed the right
way, and I think the content of the songs,
them being different from each other is interesting.
And I
like the way it was recorded, I like the way
it sounds.
MH:
It does kinda have a nice big, swanky, rock
n roll sound to it.
AG:
I like that. Big, swanky, rock n roll sound,
that's great. Can I quote you on that?
MH:
You sure can. Were you going for that sound?
AG:
Yeah. I operate within my means and I always
have recorded with Jim, and I wouldnt
mind doing
all the Gore albums with him. It will keep
the sound a certain way. Because a lot of
times, you'll hear a
bands first record, you'll love it, you'll
follow them, you watch them get bigger and
you get to like their
3rd record and it's different. I don't know
that I want to do that. I like my sound, I
like where it's at and
I'm happy with my product now.
MH:
Are you happy with the all female, kickass
band. It's kind of a novelty act setup right.
You designed it this way apparently, but there
are a lot less, percentage wise, successful
all girl bands. So is it a challenge?
AG:
It was my concept to do an all girl band,
and based on the name it came together that
way.
MH:
Do you see it as a problem being in an all
girl band
AG:
It has been a challenge for sure. But I've
always maintained an all female cast with
a couple
exceptions, but 95% of this band has been
alwayss been all girl. If I thought it was
that much of a
problem I wouldn't do it.
MH:
But you don't think the Gores are viewed as
a novelty act, you haven't perceived that?
I know, whether it's right or wrong, sometimes
I view an all girl act as a novelty, gimmicky,
approach.
AG::
Are there any bands, that you think are all
guy bands, that you think are novelty?
MH:
Sure. Like "BackstreetBoys" or even
"The Hives" with their look and
image, or, they're not
all guys, but "The White Stirpes"
that kinda have a novelty kinda look.
AG:
What makes them novelty, to you?
MH:
They definitely have an image that they're
looking to portray, and they work to sell
the
Image as much as the music.
AG:
So in your perception if a band has an obvious
stylized look that could contribute to them
being a novelty?
MH:
Sure. Sometimes. Yes. You don't feel that
way?
AG:
I don't think the "White Stripes"
are novelty. I think they're too big to be
novelty. The guy's played
with Bob Dylan on stage, he's won 5 Grammy's.
Fuckin' A.
MH:
Have you ever looked at any band as a novely
act?
AG:
Like, '80s cover bands to me or novelty or
a Halloween band to me is a novelty, something
high camp.
I don't consider the Gores to be a novelty
act, we work too hard and we're too much of
a legitimate
rock band. We're traveling in a van, we play
our own instruments, we play old amplifiers,
nobody tells us
what to do and we pound the pavement and I
think novelty sounds small and unimportant.
And we're not
small and we're not unimportant.
MH:
When I say novelty I think more unique.
AG:
Yeah, unique for sure, we are. I would say.
MH:
Was image Important when you put the band
together?
AG:
Sure.
MH:
Is image more Important or the music?
AG:
You listen to the record and you tell me.
You can answer that question.
MH:
Again. This is an interview about your thoughts.
When you made the record were you thinking
about balancing image and music?
AG:
I didn't think about it, I just made music.
MH:
Well, on the image kick, tell me about the
cover art image on "Get the Gore."
AG:
The cover photo, those were some Italian Gogo
boots that I got In a thrift store In LA,
and that's
the bottom of a picture of me that our Web
designer used for the Web site, and I thought
it was so
cool I though, lets make It the cover of the
record. It's simple and it's direct and I
wanted a lasting
classic image that was the cover of the album.
I still think of things In LP format and I
just thought it
would be really cool to pull a record out
and see that.
MH:
Have you pressed the LPs yet?
AG:
Yes. We did limited edition pink vinyl.
MH:
Sweet. That might look cool.
MH:
What are your favorite gore movies?
AG:
At this point I'm really into film noir and
gangster movies from the '40s and '50s. "White
Heat"
and old Orson Wells films, I'm not escpecially
a fan of slasher movies.
MH:
So you just liked the Herschall Gordon Lewis
films?
AG:
Yeah.
MH:
Have you guys done any soundtracks for any
tyope of movies, slasher or not?
AG:
No, but I'd love to. I think that's be really
fun.
MH:
Have you contacted anyone. Maybe told Bloodshot?
AG:
That would be interesting.
MH:
Maybe ask Herschell If he needs some stuff.
AG:
He does, I know he's doing a remake of one
of his films now, I think it's Blood Feast,
but nowadays
he's an author and kind of a direct mail guru.
So he's kind of out of the exploitation films,
he's the
Godfather of it but he's kinda moved on.
MH:
OK, you're about to go out and play. What
do you want people to take away from your
live show.
AG:
I just want them to have fun. I want them
to be entertained and feel kind of a release.
When I go
see a band I like to see energy. It's like
an art project, some kind of 3D thing, there's
the visual aspect
and I want people to be happy and to have
a good time.
interview by: Mike
Hammer